Some neopronouns that are seen as more socially acceptable include xe/xem/xyr, ze/hir/hirs, or ey/em/eir, but the great thing about neopronouns is that they can really be whatever you want, and you can identify as several. I use neopronouns for several reasons: Im cat gender and using cat related pronouns help me feel more comfortable. its a gender **RELATING** to puppies mostly used by autistic and neurodiverse people who cant understand their gender although anyone can use it if they feel that way. not really, it goes under the non binary category even though it is a mocking of the lgtb, second of all you can be called ableist for not supporting it which is stupid because being NB isnt a disability/mental illness. Xenogender is the perfect example for how the western LGBTQ+ community works. (Or, they want to act like males, but cant because their body presents as female - however those folk arent part of my argument. Xenogenders that identify with animals do not mean that if you identify with them you identify as a cat, though this is a common misconception. A user going by the name Moth posted a video stating, yeah I use neopronouns. Xenogenders use objects or animals. Its hard enough to get old folks to use "they/them", words that they use literally every day of their lives. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Subreddit for the socialist streamer & media critic Vaush, Press J to jump to the feed. Some even started mocking neopronouns by putting things such as didnt/ask, or shut/up in their bios on the app. Not really important I guess. A 'gender' that is based on a person's interest, preferred aesthetic, or feelings. Utilizamos Cookies propias y de terceros para mejorar nuestros servicios y mostrarle publicidad relacionada con sus preferencias mediante el anlisis de sus hbitos de navegacin. I would greatly appreciate, if I could be provided a little bit more information. Jeffery Baker*, a Bythewood student, falls somewhere in the middle with this issue, If Im with you, Ill call you whatever you want, but I dont think it should be the job of society to change. He continued, society should not be forced to normalize it, because that just goes against the first amendment., Daisy, a non-binary, they/them user disagreed. ), At the same time, if something is"valid", it seems to lead to respecting your identity, accepting it as real, not thinking xenogenders are "sarcastic" and not bullying you, and generally if you're saying what xenogenders are valid, it may be a marker what you're likely not ablist (even though you technically don't have to be neurodivergent for identifying as xenogender, xenogenders still usually are strongly linked to neurodivergent experience) and not transphobic andtherefore safe to interact with. My xenogenders don't feel like that, but one of mine feels like the way my keyboard feels when I press the keys. a feminine man if you will, a trans man if i must. I'm not a native English speaker and I can hardly understand it (Does this mean the word "valid" is invalid to me? Just like other words LGBTQ+ folks use, its my personal assertion that people who identified with xenogenders existed before the words themselves - Genderfluid people existed before the term was used, lesbians existed before the term was used, etc. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. You know, it's kind of like kinks and fetishes in sexual orientation. I could make my own "coin" today, but that doesn't mean anyone will ever use it or see it. Most Xenogender users use neopronouns that correlate with their gender, such as kit/kitself/pup/pupself/bun/bunself/sweet/sweetself/fae/faeself/ Xenogenders are totally valid and help neurodivergent people understand what they identify as! If you, internal to yourself+body, are treated as male, but you are treated by external people as female, then you might try to change how external people treat you. We can apply Godwin's Razor here and use the extreme example, someone who identifies as nazi-gender. Neopronouns should absolutely be normalized!! This means that on AVEN you can't make the argument that xenogenders aren't valid. Webi don't think xenogenders are valid. I think honestly that people carving out their own identity is fine if that's really what they want to do, and if you really think xenogenders existing is harming general perception of trans people, I think you might be a bit too invested in the respectability politics of having "good optics" so the general population sees us as "legitimate" and "valid". Sorry I didnt see this any sooner but glad I could help! Friendly reminder that under current ToS, we don't allow invalidation of anyone's identity, be they standard or esoteric. I fully support and get the idea of being trans - feeling like you were born in the wrong body. In addition to this, people may describe amative genders with nouns (explaination of the terms in the links), https://www.lgbtqia.wiki/wiki/Affinitive_Genders, https://www.lgbtqia.wiki/wiki/Amative_Orientations, like for a way ofexperiensing a gender(see schrodigender)or for conditional genderfluidity (seeastrogender), which may sound simular to affirmative xenogenders for an outside observer and may also be considered xenogenders, and yet aredifferent from affirmative xenogenders as you see, https://www.lgbtqia.wiki/wiki/Schrodigender, https://www.lgbtqia.wiki/wiki/Astrogender, but that doesn't aurtomatically mean they are valid, What do you mean? Not OP, nor trans but it's about the feeling of gender dysphoria and general discomfort about your assigned gender. Feeling pretty smug, she point to herself and says, My gender is Bob Sagats pants. Transgender folk roll their eyes. if you believe in appeals to authority and experience or whatever im a tme (transmisogyny exempt) transsexual person whos been out for 8 years. However, some will find themselves quite perplexed. And, perhaps obviously, genders can be switched in the example above.) Xenogenders are to mock the LGBTQIA+ community.Also another problem is they are extremely offensive to neurodivergent people. if you are trans, why can you not accept those who are also trans, but describe their gender in ways Answers to your questions about transgender people 9 questions about trans issues you were too embarrassed to ask Explained: The difference between gender, gender expression, and sexuality From 'Disclosure' to 'Pose': What movies, shows to watch during Transgender Awareness Week The racist history of the sex binary, What really happens when kids say they're transgender? Its not valid in lgtb but pop off its valid on its own. This not be related to real people, such as the gender adolfhitlergender. Are folks trying to fit in a marginalized group really an issue? A Gastrogender is a gender that relates to sweet foods, and Foodgender is a gender that relates to food in general. Did you make an alt account to repost the same thing? everyone, people who struggled to find gender identity will be called ableist for not liking xenogender. identifying as a concept, animal, object or interest doesnt come with any dysphoria or genuine connection to gender. xenogenders are not valid r/xenogenders xenogenders list and meaning sr/xenogender xenogenders list carrd xenogender carrd xenogenders carrd, LOVE & SEX xenogenders list list of xenogenders carrd non human xenogenders xenogenders xenogenders cat xenogenders bright xenogenders xenogenders are not valid. Didn't everyone everywhere simultaneously agree that "xenogenders" are a stupid concept and collectively agreed to simply ignore it? A lot of it is people feeling alienated or excluded from human society in general and carving out their own identity. Ironically, perhaps, your strategy of gender-shaming is a minority strategy itself. Occasionally you might meet someone who breaks the normal binary, and uses they/them pronouns, but there is more than one way to identify as non-binary. https://www.amazon.com/Dr-Tatianas-Sex-Advice-Creation/dp/0805063323. Of those who do, most will be fleeting - like as a part of a freshman psychology course or responding to a Reddit post. If you're not very educated on transgender/nonbinary topics in general, it may be even harder to understand xenogenders. So Xenogenders mock the LGBTQ+ and the neurodivergent community. They arent doing any harm to anyone so people should treat them respectfully. I get that everybody thinks they're cringe of whatever. Theyre doing more harm than the person who uses those pronouns by bashing them., continued, You cannot pick and choose which of us are worthy of support and validation. I want people to use their own definition. I will try to be more careful in that regard in the future, Not more "hyperspecific" than binary genders and surely not more "hyperspecific' than "just me", which obviously specific for only you (and most people don't describe their gender as "just me", so i really don't get your point) Anyway, the word is arbitrary and implies some kind of "too much", andalready saysit's applied to something "unnessesary" and for the reasoninaccepting of xenogenders. For example, Possum.Lover, could you explain a bit more about Xenogenders? Xenogenders are made for everyone to find what describes them best, and even cisgender people can (and do) use them and new neopronouns to describe their more unique feelings of themselves to others. But some people dont neatly fit into the categories of man or woman, or male or female. For example, some people have a gender that blends elements of being a man or a woman, or a gender that is different than either male or female. I graduated school because someone said I did. Gender in this regard is a mating strategy. Many binary trans individuals felt that neopronoun users were invalidating all the hard work the trans community has done to be normalized in society. Clear editor. It also includes genders that were given definitions in or after 2000, as long as there was no strong implied definition and/or it was used to Neogenders are also MOGAI genders and any genders that dont fit under Neogender arent MOGAI genders. I also use emoji pronouns! Non-binary people are people who dont feel comfortable identifying as either of the binary genders, so therefore use pronouns such as they/them, or neopronouns. But using the logic of gender existing as something necessarily derived from and related to sex, you could easily make the argument that agender people arent valid either. Since 2017, a flag dedicated to this gender identity also exists: an arc of a circle on colored bands, the center of which is marked by a star corresponding to the astronomical sign of the asteroid Iris. However, it is primarily LGBT+ people, particularly nonbinary people, who use them currently. I like how they sound for me, and they help me express who I am better.. The meaning of neogender as a subcategory is any gender that has come around since the early 2000s, meaning that it even includes terms that people wouldn't normally consider to be MOGAI like demiboy and genderfluid. The MOGAI community Wiki is a FANDOM Lifestyle Community. In my opinion gender is a category that is derived from sex and exists in relation to it. 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