It seems rather patronizing to minorities to assert that every minority persons ideas must be legitimate because the propounder is of a certain colour. Similarly, SBC president J.D. Doesnt the Holy Spirit operate in us as individuals? Yet despite all thats happened, Wicker said, I pray people would not use this to come against megachurches or seeing all committees as bad., Similarly, Caudill stated, First Baptist Naples still has potential to be used greatly by God. Our Vision. He hopes If all things had been equal and fair, our story would not have reached as far and wide, and stoked the emotions that it has. The group adds that national leaders within FBC Napless denomination, the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), supported the churchs leadership and furthered the racism charge. Wicker said several weeks later, the church emailed him, stating that Wicker had facilitated and cooperated with a rival faction in the church, which voided his exit agreement. However, he stated, In the 22 years I was there (FBC Naples), I never heard a racist commentever. It is widely known that an 85% affirmative vote is unusually high. Thats why its so harmful to the church; its born of and encourages the myopic tendencies of American evangelicalism. However, no evidence of racism has yet been produced. 3000 Orange Blossom Drive, Naples, FL 34109, U.S. And they said, Surely, you will not die. Upvote 1 Downvote. (The church publishes an annual directory with member email addresses.). Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? emails from the accused church members reveal that dissenters were Jude certainly understood this. Hundreds of members have left the church. Find Best Western Hotels & Resorts nearby Sponsored. Racism had Nothing to do with voting!It had to do with biblical principals that many questioned ( CRT, SJM, "Woke" Church). Great! this approach to transition can become a helpful model for other churches.. The separation was hardly amicable. He said the church was hopeful that Hayes would allow his name to be reconsidered as the church's next senior pastor or interim pastor. **Statements about the actions taken by FBC Naples leadership assume the fidelity of Pulpit & Pens inside source. If I had known that, there would have been no resignation whatsoever.. Why abide with a corrupt individual being in a leadership position at the church? Pastor John David Edie, who wrote the open letter to the SBC on behalf of leaders at FBC Naples, alleging racism, resigned in early December. It does not suddenly make a point valid or invalid. Former deacon, Blake Crawford, said Wicker was later exonerated of the charges in the anonymous letter by church accounting firm, Phillips Harvey Group. "They are reaching their community and showing the care and love that the community desperately needs." Photos courtesy of FBC Naples Hearts With Hands Exactly right. Like when my colorblind friends didnt understand my discomfort when we chose to stop on a road trip in a small town with confederate flags waiving everywhere. As managing editor of the former Florida Baptist Witness (state paper) I was witness to many of Hayes Wickers years of fruitful ministry. But while we cannot know the heart of another, this doesnt sound like a case of hearts poisoned intolerance, of minds clouded by prejudice. The Story Of First Baptist Church Naples is disturbing and alarming, but it is meant to be an inspiration. weekend the congregation failed I saw that simply as a distraction from the devil.. @Bernie Lutchman you are so correct. Last fall, First Baptist Church (FBC) Naplesa prominent Southern Baptist megachurch in southwest Floridamade national headlines for rejecting an African American pastoral candidate because of some alleged racist members. Select the event you would like to attend below: FRIDAY, Dec 9 (7pm) NO RESERVATIONS AVAILABLE. First Baptist Naples is, ethnically, a predominantly white church but we are not a racist church.. Wicker, a former President of the Florida Baptist Convention and the SBC Pastors Conference, was such a high-profile leader and fundraiser for Baptist causes that his retirement was covered by Baptist Press, which reported the following on February 4th: In mid-January, Wicker, 68, Toward that end, the site requires that people use their full name when commenting. The church leadership released a statement explaining how the church membership wasnt supposed to vote their conscience, but rather rubberstamp the search committees recommendation: As most of you know, in Southern Baptist life,when a Senior Pastor comes in view of a call by the recommendation of a Search Committee, the actual vote is most always viewed as a ceremonial and celebratory affirmation of the Spirits leading within the hearts and minds of the Search Committee that has extended the call. Certified Public Accountant, For nearly two weeks, Christian social media has been atwitter with commentary over whats being called The Asbury Revival at, Arizona Pastor Blows the Whistle on Andy Stanley, Robby Gallatys Glowsticks Are Not the Problem, Video: JD Reports on Critical Race Theory Tearing Apart SBC Megachurch, Southern Baptist Youth Pastor Fired for Questioning Near-Death Experience Teachings. We are frankly disappointed that no resolution is making it impossible as at now for all the lovely folks within Naples to move forward. "Is that what the gospel is all about?". The process offers no protections for those suspected worthy of dismissal, so it invites rampant abuse. Second, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. encouraged color blindness. "It had to do with biblical principals that many questioned," she wrote. Bonnett told the Daily News in an email Wednesday no revote has been scheduled. They have been in my heart and prayers since this happened. It stinks to me of Greed. Also concerning to the group was the fact that Marcus Hayes didnt respond to a letter Concerned Members of FBCN had sent him a week earlier, outlining their issues at the church. Your Connection Portal. I am Caucasian from Eastern Europe. Edie, the church's executive pastor, however, called Hayes "one of the most qualified men in Southern Baptist life to be a Senior Pastor of any church in this country.". Rather than bringing members who are accused of sin before the church body for examination, members are being removed from the church rolls through actions taken directly by deacons and pastoral staff without a vote of the church body. I can tell you unequivocally racist did NOT play any part in the actions of decision of the excommunicated members of FBC. I attended the Saturday evening service with Dr.Marcus Hayes. The church staff alleged that racism was behind the rejection. The leadership structure for the past 500 years in pretty much all of our churches is just refurbished Roman Catholicism. I can tell you I am not a racist. FBC Naples also sent several cease and desist letters from prominent law firm, Holland & Knight, to several church members suspected of having involvement with the Voices of FBCN email. However, CT said it was not able to confirm whether Biltmore Church received such communications. It is time for the SBC to do what they should have done first, before concluding who was right: Shine the light, Brothers, shine the light in here. But we are not merely ambassadors. ", "After reviewing a little deeper we find that "social justice" and racial inequality appear to be his priority as it pertains to the church and ministry!" Of course, it is obvious you have a vested interest in attacking those putting out the facts. (Hey, and I know white people who love Woke Church!) Enough racists voted against the pastor. In the email, the group warned that Hayes had endorsed Woke Church, a book that the email claimed was promoting cultural Marxism., The email also objected to Hayes reportedly saying that he rejects the concept that a person can look at a person of color and see no color. The authors wrote, Paul is clear to us in Philippians 3:2-10 that we are to have no confidence in the flesh of our ethnicity.. Marcus D. Hayes, a pastor from Hendersonville, North Carolina, was brought before the church congregation on the weekend of Oct. 26 and 27 by the church'spastor search committee to affirm him as the next senior pastor. close to Wicker, contacted Pulpit & Pen with disturbing details Let us pray for you. Nothing new in this article. It also shapes my needs, which tend to go forgotten or overlooked if you refuse to see I am a black woman. Now, church members who have been removed from membership over their opposition to the appointment of Marcus Hayes are in fear that they may be unable to witness their children graduate. Been here 25+ times. to affirm of Wickers intended replacement, Marcs Hayes. If those sound like difficult assignments to keep in balance and maintain in proper perspective, it is because they are. The Marcus Hayes vote was used to cry wolf. We reached out to leaders at FBC Naples about a dozen times, seeking evidence for the racism charge, as well as comment on other issues at the church, but no one responded. "We all realize that the year of 2019 has been very difficult in the life of our church," Dorrill said. Church sees massive budget shortfall since longtime pastor retired. We've got a Bible & Life Group that's perfect for . Church leaders have alleged that race played a role in the failed vote to affirm Hayes, causing a firestorm of heated discussion on social media and spawning posts by religious websites and blogs. First, there are blacks who strenuously object to books like Woke Church, as well as intersectionality, and reparations for slavery. Pastor John David Edie, who wrote the open letter to the SBC on behalf of leaders at FBC Naples, alleging racism, resigned in early December. A movement, to direct and shape the policies and testimony of the church is quite a thing. The process did not adhere to or reflect any biblical model. One Denomination that claims to hold the Christian faith to avoid is the Southern Baptist Churces and their affiliations. From the reporting in this article, it seems clear that more light needs to be shed on events. I guess thats why this slanderous information is labeled as commentary. Interesting. The Asbury Revival Is Over. FirstNaples.org My Account Login Those involved either need to find a way to recover from this, not just cover it up, or decide to step aside for the greater good. What have we done, indeed? Im not sure why you would describe Dr. Kings sentiments as ridiculous and ungodly. Theres only one human race. Wade Burleson is also part of the smear campaign, too. Does my agreement with Dr. King and my deep concerns about intersectionality, et al, make me a racist? However, in May, Wicker said he agreed to videotape a short farewell message to members from a script both he and the personnel committee had approved. "First Baptist Naples is, ethnically, a predominantly white church but we are not a racist church." Caudill said no one replied to his letter. A lengthyOct. 24 email signed by the "group of concerned FBCN members"and obtained by the Daily News was titled "Concerns Surfacing About Compatibility with Marcus Hayes." To be blunt, it stinks and the whiff of corruption I detect is an autocratic sense of entitlement, with a touch of greed, perhaps, as well. That's why Hayes was not officially approved, when in past years he would have been. In his quote-tweet, Hayes said Roberson was in his student ministry while he was a youth pastor in Chicago. We need to see people as fellow human beings made in the image of God. Church leadership has told excommunicated church members that public response to their situation will result in a restraining order banning them from First Baptist Academy related activities. The church also launched a schoolFirst Baptist Academy. Wicker responded with a 16-page letter refuting the charges against him. I had the privilege of knowing this young man! The dissenters, and their surrogates, have done a good job (whether they realize it or not) of explaining why Hayes was rejected and much of it is deeply racially tinged, including: Hayes rejection of the notion of racial colorblindness, Hayes support of Eric Masons book Woke Church and intersectionality, Hayes support of slavery reparations for descendants of African American slaves, and Hayes alleged statements in support of more black leadership in SBC member organizations. What they did to Rev Wicker and his Godly family is nothing but sinful. I dont think you mean ill will, but just want to make you aware of how poorly comments like that tend to land. In June, Voices of FBCN sent an email to many in the church, criticizing the actions of church leadership. Wicker also was pastor for 20 years to evangelical author and founder of Prison Fellowship, Chuck Colson. (Lets not even get into the bullying by church staff) Lets just focus on the by-laws for one second. Where in the N.T. Jesus said that He wants us to all be in unity and that He is building a church. {I realize, Im using the word black rather than African American. I personally do not care for the term African American, and there are black people who dislike it more than I do.} At least four emails were "broadly sent," he wrote, with others privately sent. Since the failed vote, other allegations have surfaced. More about this ministry: Welcome to First Naples! First Naples glorifies God by being a multigenerational, multiethnic, multiplying church, that raises up the next generation of disciple makers, . Greear, who had written a letter of recommendation for Marcus Hayes, called the open letter by FBC Naples leadership a bold, Gospel-faithful response of the leadership of FBC Naples. Greear added, Let us be united in lament that any vestige of this kind of sinful prejudice remains in our churches., Also, Danny Akin, president of SBC-affiliated Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary (SEBTS), described the open letter as a strong and redemptive word from FBC Naples.. ", Two members of the counting committee, he said, have admitted to leaking confidential early voting results from Saturday night to a lay leader in the church "who then used that information, we believe, to compromise the process.". What a great and wise man of God he is? To find sermons, announcements, and other resources, click on the link below. concerned with factors other than racism, such as Marcus Hayes And on December 31, Wicker said the health insurance provided by the church was cut off for him and his wife, who has a serious heart condition. I have no hate here. #JemelRoberson https://t.co/Y1dMXQY33N, But the Group of Concerned FBNC Members, citing the tweet, said Hayes should be questioned about his relationship with first responders, specifically police, "and his thoughts on such topics as Ferguson, police shootings involving people of color, etc. @Michelle I believe you make valid points. To that point, no group had met with Hayes or the committee privately, Dorrill continued, before adding to applause from those gathered at the Q&A session: "This will continue to be a transparent search. If this pastoral candidate supportes a book that divides the church along ethnic lines and stirs up divisions in the body of Christ, it is sad that he received as many votes as he did. Upvote 3 Downvote. In November, just weeks after the church excommunicated 18 members, John Garippa, a longtime FBC Naples member who led two popular Bible Studies at FBC Naples, left the church. "There are no terms to describe what has happened here other than sin. Thanks for submitting! At Berean Baptist Church, we have one message-the message of the Lord Jesus Christ, and one ministry-the ministry He has given us to go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. Find more information about the groups that meet throughout the week by clicking below. In 2001, Dorrill pled guilty to racketeering conspiracy charges in connection with the Stadium Naples corruption scandal. I know that can seem like a simple concept, but it seems to be forgotten when the well a black person disagrees with it! argument is used. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. We asked him to allow us to hug him. Now it certainly will as the debt load is unsustainable. Wicker said Dorrill banned him from pastoral search team meetings, and the chairmen of the personnel and finance committees told Wicker his oversight was not needed. He didnt rob a liquor store, assault some young person in his office, or do anything wrong that could be cited. Havent hurt enough yet. The search for a senior pastor continues, with Dorrill leading the search committee. The views expressed in any video or live stream presented on our website may not necessarily be the views of the CWM owners and staff. 11,847 were here. To donate, click here. Not lies. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. Dorrill said at the Nov. 2 service thatdisciplinary action "towards church members who have violated our church covenant by causing dissension, disruption and spreading of misinformation have been taken and are underway. Would you believe that not a single member of the church has reached out to me in love and asked to hear my side of the events. Hayes did not suddenly abandon his faith in the few months between his announcement that he was stepping aside, as he was being felt led to do, to make room for younger leadership and his sudden dismissal by the FBCN leadership. Grateful that FBCN is moving toward amputating the racists, tweeted Rev. The following Tuesday, April 23, Wicker met with FBC Naples leaders including Dorrill, Chairman of the Personnel Committee Troy Boone, Chairman of the Finance Committee Don Collier, and Chairman of Deacons Terry Cole. Did people voice concerns and questions about Marcus? Now with COVID-19 churches this size are facing a very quick death. Sad state of affairs. He friended, then de-friended and blocked my wife on social media. And second, Mr. Hayes did nothing to convince me that he would embrace me as a disgraced member of the church. He shared some examples, including one from a woman who said the church had failed to check Hayes' Twitter account and called him a "radical leftist. . As a seasonal member of FBCN during the events you cover here I can share how troubling this is. Pray for Me; Log In This is a demonstration of holding a form of godliness, but having denied the power thereof. And Paul goes on to say So, Turn away from these, also. According to sources, Wicker wanted a long period of transition to the new leadership, with even an overlap to help the transition process. Wicker spent 27 years as pastor of First Baptist Church of Naples. JUST STOP THE HATE. Racial prejudice a factor in rejection of black pastor, read the headline of a piece published in the Baptist Standard. Giving. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Again, more lies and half-truths. Items. Despite these red flags, leaders in the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) have supported leaders at FBC Naples. I guess I missed this one. But a question and answer session with Hayes and his wife held by the church on Oct. 24 offers some glimpses into the opposition that built against the prospective new senior pastor and the apparent rift between church leadership and some in the congregation. For these crimes, he was wrongly treated, humiliated, and denied even basic due process, and most certainly treated anything but Christ like. Jonathan Head November 26, 2011. Ill never bother with a Church again, because this is always going to be an issue. What Happens Now? Our mission as soldiers is to overthrow false ideas. Wicker said in late October, when FBC Naples excommunicated the 18 members, it also stopped paying him his severance. The day after excommunicating the 18 members, FBC Naples lay leadership and pastoral staff sent an open letter to the SBC, accusing some who didnt vote for Hayes, whos a member of the SBC Executive Committee, of racism. The decision to excommunicate us 48 hours after a failed vote, without ANY confrontation, was nothing more than a knee jerk reaction to make people pay and to establish a scapegoat. "And, as a result of that, there have been groups who honestly feel a little disenfranchised. And because it promises rewards to individuals and organizations influence, students, platform it is both very hard to criticize and functionally unaccountable to any but its own. Location Berean Baptist Church is an independent Baptist church located in the beautiful community of Naples, Florida, just south of Ft. Myers. They released a statement to the church family blaming racism for the rejection of Marcus Hayes. God used their faithfulness and devotion to create a mighty ministry through FBCN. Ready to start serving? The article above has been corrected to identify the group as Voices of FBCN. The so-called dissenters had issues with what the church was doing WELL BEFORE Marcus Hayes arrived. The experience with the church was so unnerving for the Wickers that in September, the extended familyincluding two adult children, their spouses, and six grandchildrenpulled up stakes from Naples and moved several states away. Why did the church leadership behave in such an aggressive and dismissive manner? And this statement was made by an African American pastor on Moody Radio. The GRAND OLD STANDARD, the Baptist Faith and the Message, swallowed up by an effective indoctrination of the Faithful by the Left. I guess the good news is that we are all free to move to a different church whenever we like. church as large as FBC Naples. If you promote that, take a LONG look in the mirror. Church leaders at First Baptist Church Naples have blasted a faction of their congregation, alleging "racial prejudices" contributed to a failed vote late last month to name a black man the church's new senior pastor. No One Knows. Melisa do you attend First Baptist ? But what was concluded was that all things were not fair nor were they right. The churchs My heart goes out to his family. Boy oh boy. Jemel Roberson was in my student ministry while I was a youth pastor in Chicago. When you see me, you will see I am a black woman. Read the letter from the church to the Southern Baptist Convention, question and answer session with Hayes and his wife, Read the letter from First Baptist to church members regarding voting results, fatal shooting of a black security guard by a white police officer, Police release name of cop who killed black security guard who was corralling a gunman, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. It also appears that the SBC concluded too soon who was in the right. "My heart goes out to his family," Hayes wrote. THAT IS OK! Concerned Members of FBCN says the petition received 800 signatures. I believe Hayes was rejected because of racism. their sin. Ive already been excommunicated and humiliated. I'm New. And in 2006, Wicker served as head of the SBC Pastors Conference. Is not the sheer stupidity of this self-evident? You may recall this line from his I have a dream speech: I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. I believe Dr. King was right. ", CONSIDER SUBSCRIBING TODAY: Help support local journalism, More: Read the letter from First Baptist to church members regarding voting results, In a letter to church membersshortly after the failed vote, the church pointed the finger at groupscalled "Voices of FBCN" and"Group of Concerned FBCN Members.". Multiple sources claiming to be from FBC Naples have reached out to Pulpit & Pen and Reformation Charlotte and we are currently assessing the accounts of these individual. pastoral staff has publicly accused church members who did not approve of Marcus We have read so many of our traditions back into the New Testament, and tried to make them fit. A representative from the Collier County Sheriffs Office also confirmed that FBC Naples contacted them on July 3 regarding a suspicious incident., Wickers daughter, Allyson Stephens, said that on September 13, two detectives visited her home and questioned her about the Voices of FBCN email. I just want to point out that when you say things like I am in a biracial marriage, it sounds a LOT like I have a black friend. Trust me, that gets you little more than eye-rolling. Mancini said its standard to recommend that an outgoing senior pastor not be involved in a pastoral succession process. Bunch of old white guys with too much time on their hands and too many books in their personal theology libraries. Yet Caudill said that instead of calling a special meeting in accordance with church bylaws, the leadership at FBC Naples excommunicated 18 of the Concerned Members, including Caudill. Notice carefully: Our task as ambassadors is to bring good news to people. Just fill out this form and let us know your needs. (Auxanos founder, Will Mancini, also serves as director of consulting for Lifeway, the publishing division of the SBC.). Unfortunately, this did not meet the threshold. On Easter weekend, Wicker said he received a text message that several chairmen wanted to meet with him about church unrest. Wicker said he tried to ignore it. Marcus Hayes based upon prejudice, our church loves all people of all colors equally," Stearns wrote. These included a lack of transparency at the church, absence of vetted elders, and the public maligning of former longtime pastor, Hayes Wicker. To donate. Garippa, who was never part of Concerned Members of FBCN, declined to comment on why he left FBC Naples. is a pastoral search committee? So we are ambassador-soldiers, reaching out to sinners with the truth even as we make every effort to destroy the lies and other forms of evil that hold them in deadly bondage. Curious timing of raising those concerns. Wicker said that during the meeting, the men confronted him with an anonymous letter that accused Wicker of financial impropriety, such as not tracking his miles on a church-leased vehicle. Such a loving bunch, arent they?!). Yet, thats what multiple sources have alleged is happening to them. Shopping. ", "While racial issues were brought into play, and horrifically there indeed were some who did not approve Rev. "Misinformation, fear, and ignorance of social media platforms played a role in the voting, and we, as a church family, are dealing with those issues.". (I)t seems from social media posts that, with no investigation, some convention leaders have chosen to believe this narrative, Caudill wrote. "Unfortunately our church familys business has become fodder for spotlight-seeking bloggers and others who are commenting about Christians whom they do not know personally, and slandering a church that they know little about," Sonya Stearns, a member of the church, said in an email to the Daily News. Good Ole Fascist techniques of taking away 1A rights are even occurring within the church. Gretchen Church, who said on Twitter that she has been a member of First Baptistfor more than 17 years, tweeted that racism had nothing to do with voting. If it can happen at FBC Naples, it can happen anywhere. Our warfare is not against flesh and blood (Ephesians 6:12); and our duty as ambassadors does not permit us to compromise or align ourselves with any kind of human philosophies, religious deceit, or any other kind of falsehood (Colossians 2:8). "To our knowledge, he has never handleda multi-million-dollar budget, building programs, fundraising and/or staffing issues as required by a Senior Pastor," the group wrote. This is a warning to all Southern Baptists. Other parts of the email laid out concerns the group had with Hayes' tweets about books that deal with race and religion and questioned whether he had the necessary experience to take the post as senior pastor. action has been taken to enact church discipline on the dissenters because of Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Arkansas Youth Pastor Pleads Guilty to 13 Counts of Sexual Assault, Churches Respond to Action of SBC Executive Committee, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. An earlier version of this article named the group accused of stealing the email addresses as concerned FBCN members. He didnt return multiple phone calls and e-mails. First Naples || Livestream - Streaming live from Naples, FL. Only love. Until this happens FBCN will be a former great ministry. Power plays, power trips and finances will have repercussions on Judgment Day.or did certain people forget about that?!. Trust me, I have been guilty of that very same thing myself and Ive learned the hard way being on the other side. Allegedly he said he was happy to see some people in SBC membership moved to the bottom as others move to the top. Despite his disagreement with the process, Wicker said he submitted to an exit agreement offered by the church, which included a non-disclosure clause. 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