Andrew: Yeah. Interviewee: No, we have a lot of book geeks but. So am I coming up with these ideas, kind of, but really its our users who are coming up with it and saying Gee it would be really great if you did this, and I go Yeah, youre right, so its not that hard actually, you just have to listen. Interviewee: No I didnt have to do that. The idea came about when Otis Chandler was browsing through his friend's bookshelf. [37] Once users have added friends to their profile, they will see their friends' shelves and reviews and can comment on friends' pages. You allow them to connect with their readers. Even if you get published by Harper Collins or Manninghouse, great theyre going to put your book in the Barnes & Noble store but, theyre not going to market beyond that. You can self-publish through any of the self publishing sites like [LuLu] and come on and even if youre just writing a book you can do it do. [51], Goodreads librarians improve book information on the website, including editing book and author information and adding cover images. And I see Dave Yank, whos watching the slide has got a question. I dont think it worked. Interviewee: First, Ive always been a reader. But I was really excited to learn this hot new language called Ruby on Rails. [75] As a result, Goodreads, an Amazon company, stripped the metadata from its record for the offending title, segregating The Turner Diaries to its "NOT A BOOK" author moniker (a category typically used to weed non-book items and plagiarized titles from the platform).[76]. The rest of us get a nice check. Alright so it seems to me like where you really learned the business side of things was working at Tickle.com the company that you were with for about six years. [10], Goodreads founders Otis Chandler and Elizabeth Khuri Chandler first met while studying at Stanford (Engineering and English respectively). And this is the way you build any product, right? [73] A form of extortion scam known as "review bombing", in which trolls post numerous 1-star ratings and poor reviews on an author's new book from different sock-puppet accounts to make the book look bad (sometimes demanding money or that the author quit Goodreads usage to stop the bad reviews from coming in), has also been widely reported as a growing form of bullying on Goodreads, targeting both traditional and self-published authors. But, you guys also did certain things to make it even more viral. But Ive always been an engineering minded kid. So for some perspective, it used to be, say maybe 20 years ago, all you had to do as an author was write a book, hand it to your publisher, they would take it do their thing, youd get a check, youd go back to writing the next one. This episode of How I Built This was produced by Casey Herman and edited by Neva Grant. Do you have a group on Goodreads thats like that? You were studying mechanical engineering. They were too serious. Otis Chandler succeeded his father as the paper's publisher in 1960 and held that post for 20 years, though Norman Chandler remained an executive with the company until his death in 1974. [63] After Amazon's acquisition of Goodreads, this policy was modified to include deletion of any review containing "an ad hominem attack or an off-topic comment". His net worth has been growing significantly in 2021-2022. Personal Investments. Monster Worldwide, the leading purveyor of online jobs, purchased the company in 2004. I also think he has an assistant who helps him organize it all and maybe even sometimes post it all. And this is kind of like what MySpace does for bands. Then plus wed have advertising on the test throughout it and that ended up working because the fun tests would go viral and draw people into taking more fun tests and then some of them would take a serious test and all of it was designed to be fun and to learn about yourself. It just seemed like there was a lot more innovation going on. Andrew: Im going to save that for Mixergy.com. Should I go outsource to India or whatever? Im like no, just get a good engineer, get a smart guy out of college, give him a large piece of your company, make him your right hand man and go build something before you do anything and prove that it works. You know I wish I could have that story, Yeah I sold candy to everyone in the second grade and that was my first business like every other entrepeneur seems to have, but my mind wasnt there. Additional support from Jeff Rogers, J.C. Howard, Julia Carney, Elaine Coates, Farrah Safari, Liz Metzger, Harrison Vijay Tsui and Katherine Sypher, and Margaret Cirino. Thankfully the Kindle is allowing me to buy books remotely though. Im in Argentina can I find people who are here instead of having to get the book shipped from the US? Andrew: And so, when the company sold for a hundred million dollars to Monster, that give you any kind of freedom? Otis Chandler. Otis Chandler was born on November 23, 1927 in United States (78 years old). They wanted more of a community. Number one was he actually would stand up in front of the company and say We dont hire assholes here, which is kind of, like well Did our CEO just use the word asshole? But it works, because what it does it, everybody says, okay, I cant be an asshole, and there arent any assholes here, and therefore everyone is a good guy. It depends on, again, on the book. And maybe every couple months Id empty my Amazon shopping cart. Interviewee: Now, were at about 2.7 million registered users. So you know this idea is kind of built into it, and everywhere you go on the site youre kind of getting this reminder that theres stuff happening here and your friends are talking about it, and that just kind of helps get the concept across that hey, I should add friends. Haystack.com, thats where youre gonna find the right web designer for your next project. Otis Chandler - San Francisco, CA (1,354 books) 585 ratings (4.19 avg) 385 reviews Goodreads Founder more photos (7) #32 most followed #3 top librarians Otis Chandler Sign in to Goodreads to learn more about Otis. Is that him on twitter? Ten years after Goodreads was founded by Otis Chandler and his wife, Elizabeth Khuri Chandler, and four years after its acquisition by Amazon, the online social reading . Goodreads CEO & founder Otis Chandler and Elizabeth Chandler Editor & Chief run a social reading site that offers book reviews and a place to discover new books to read, based in part by. But the point is, you went from big generic to lots of little niche ones and the niche ones worked because they were tight around a community and the interests that people liked. Like about 10% of our users went kind of nuts and would add everything theyve ever read. And not work. Dave, Im going to ask your question in a little bit when we get deeper into Goodreads, but if anyone else has questions like Dave does, just punch them into twitter with the word mixergy and Ill see them. You know, theres still challenges. Users were offered the ability to export data and migrate accounts. Social book cataloging website owned by Amazon, Learn how and when to remove this template message, published under a different name before coming out, "Amazon to Buy Social Site Dedicated to Sharing Books", "Book lovers seething over Amazon acquisition of Goodreads", "Elizabeth Khuri Chandler Tells the Origin Story of Goodreads", "Need Advice on What to Read? [1] Thats intense. Interviewee: For one, I didnt feel like getting another job. Interviewee: Its a very smart point, because if something is boring, if you sign up for a service and theres nothing for you to do until someone signs up, youre just going to leave, right? Andrew: [Andrew Laughs] that actually I think is a good prep for a business. So Goodreads was built to do this, our position is not catalog your books, our position is see what your friends are reading, or get excited about reading through your friends. So it turns out what had been going on, people who had this desire to share their thoughts about books, they had all been using blogs. [inaudible] Id always kinda been a reader as a kid and I wanted to get back to that. I mean it was all about creating content so I mean to make something viral you have to create something that is able to go viral right? Andrew: You know where they grow those kinds of engineers/entrepreneurs is Hacker News. Andrew: How are they doing that? [6] By July 2012, the site reported 10 million members, 20 million monthly visits, and thirty employees. So I wanted to provide that experience around reading. Haystack is where you are going to find the right web designer for your next project. [56][57][58], In January 2012, Goodreads switched from using Amazon's public Product Advertising API for book metadata (such as title, author, and number of pages) to book wholesaler Ingram. Andrew: What about the business behind it, or how do you, alright so I can understand its fun, but if theres not as much substance to it wheres the money coming from is I guess what Im asking. [42] By 2011, "seventeen thousand authors, including James Patterson and Margaret Atwood" used Goodreads to advertise.[4]. But people started to get burned out on those big generic sites. Hey everyone, its Andrew Warner, founder of Mixergy.com, home of the ambition upstart. [68], Authors who are aware of the site have noted problematic qualities of Goodreads affecting discoverability and search engine results, particularly the platform's inability to sort pseudonyms, and its refusal to allow authors to choose the primary author name that appears on book records. [Break in audio] So what a lot of these authors are realizing Hey, Ive got to be out there on the internet collecting fans and gaining readership.. If you havent heard of Otis Chandler its because he spends more time coding his site, Goodreads.com, than promoting himself. But the point is, you went from big generic to lots of little niche ones and the niche ones worked because they were tight around a community and the interests that people liked. So suddenly we were just being mentioned in all these blogs. Interviewee: Right, thats actually a big focus of ours right now, and has been for the last two years, I think. You know, one of the first things I do when I go into any bodys house is I look at their bookshelves and see whats on there. Whered you come up with the idea? Otis Chandler is the most interesting person in the book, a driven, hollow man. Youll learn some of the viral techniques that Otis used to encourage his users to get their friends to join the site. What were you able to do? Number of Investments 2. Goodreads members can apply to become volunteer librarians after they have 50 books on their profile. Otis Chandler's income source is mostly from being a successful Actor. They can see the books that youve read and can read these great reviews. Otis Chandler is a Celebrity Family Member, zodiac sign: Sagittarius. In 2007, Otis Chandler developed a social network for bookworms because, rather than relying on media reviews and bestseller lists, he wanted to get reading recommendations from friends. And Goodreads allows you to keep all of the books youve ever read. I had never read all these classics that I knew were really good. Andrew: Do you think you couldve learned it if you didnt have an engineering background? I cant believe I struggled over it because now its a no-brainer. Andrew: Its all about research online. So realitys about making things really dead simple for the user. You dont have to be a published author to do this. Otis figured he might prove him wrong, and in 2007, launched Goodreads, a book catalog and review site that he coded from his LA apartment. Otis Chandler (November 23, 1927 - February 27, 2006) was the publisher of the Los Angeles Times between 1960 and 1980, leading a large expansion of the newspaper and its ambitions. Maybe its going to be some kind of mobile, social networking that we can all access on our iPhones. But if you wrote a book about a certain topic you should go to people whofind communities around that topic and market to them. I cant remember who I was thinking of but guys with serious cred. Login or become a premium member. Thats actually a big asset which is kind of sad because it means that first time writer whos got an amazing idea or an amazing story to tell is not going to get the same chance that, you know, I dont know, Sarah Palin is going to get. But actively working at it, getting into doing speaking events around the book, doing readings and absolutely social media, I think, is big. No car is worth that money but I guess it is rich mans way to fill a void in their life. I wanted that on the site. We have estimated Otis Chandler's net worth, money, salary, income, and assets. Dont go. So Im glad I didnt do it. [2], Goodreads was founded in December 2006 and launched in January 2007 by Otis Chandler and Elizabeth Khuri Chandler. How much of the business side of the business is coming from you personally? So, from that perspective, absolutely, it was life-changing. Interviewee: Definitely. Thanks. If a user has written a work, the work can be linked on the author's profile page, which also includes an author's blog. [64] Several news sources reported the announcement, noting Amazon's business reasons for the move: Where authors were threatening a mass account cancellation to protest the bullying, many of the reader users who commented on the announcement are now threatening the same thing. Did you run a bunch of different quizzes, and then that ones that did you test a bunch of different quizzes and only run widely those that worked well, or did you have some other system to figure out what was compelling? Edit Personal Investments Section. Not Mixergy. His books ten years ago they would just become best sellers by getting in the New York Times. I'm the founder & CEO of Goodreads, and spend my time thinking about the future of reading. What to give them and what not to? To get me to take the mindset of yeah okay, I can take a year off and not go on salary and build something for my living room, that was essentially life-changing. What can they do as authors? No, I get those emails from you. Andrew: And how did he pass on what he learnt at Tickle to you? Were you also building or creating little businesses as a kid? [74], In early 2021, Amazon removed all new and used copies of William Luther Pierce's white supremacist novel The Turner Diaries from sales on its platform and subsidiary platforms, citing concerns with the QAnon movement as the cause. He says he loves Good Reads, he loves the community on there, and he wonders what youre going to do to get authors more engaged. Andrew: Can I find people locally to swap books with? So that was my realization. For a lot of people, this is when things started to go downhill, and it's hard to argue against that. Interviewee: Yeah, I had basic stock options. I actually found a dating site once for people who golf. Otis Chandler is the co-founder and CEO of Goodreads.com. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. The easier you make things for users, the better; so if you tell them: Youve got to do a bunch of work to find your friends and send these test results to you, theyre not going to do as much. I had never read Sherlock Holmes. Some users worried that their reading records would be lost, but Goodreads had a number of plans in place to ease the transition and ensure that no data was lost, even for titles that might be in danger of deletion because they were available only through Amazon, such as Kindle editions and self-published works on Amazon. Am I reading your history properly here? Andrew: Alright, but, so you were taking things apart even as a kid. Goodreads is an American social cataloging website and a subsidiary of Amazon[1] that allows individuals to search its database of books, annotations, quotes, and reviews. It was all about learning how you build the product. So they finally got an idea that went big, it was just because it was something that was fun. Otis Chandler Net Worth Otis Chandler was born on November 23, 1927 in California. Andrew: Definitely, alright, well end it there. He is a software engineer at heart and loves tinkering on the site to make it the best product possible. Some authors have suggested that Goodreads take a stricter approach to public review postings in the same manner that Amazon has done in the past, such as requiring a telephone number, a verified account by email address, and a real name before any account-holder can post public ratings or reviews. So its not keyword based like the other ones; its book genre based. [66], Critics of the Goodreads platform feel that Goodreads' dominant position, coupled with limited development by Amazon, has prevented better tools emerging for personalized book recommendations. Chandler continued running Goodreads until 2019. Youll hear how working for Tickle.coms founder, James Currier, was better than going to business school. Interviewee: So, the founder, James [?] Little bit of Goodreads trivia. One thing I will be continuing is my podcast Books of Your Life with Elizabeth 1 reply 1 retweet 10 likes You know, maybe in their job theyre a professor of something or a TV personality so that they know theyll be able to market it on their own. And you look at how many people come in and how many invites get sent and how many people can make it to the end. Andrew: How expensive was it? So it just always seemed like something I wanted to do. After university Chandler initially worked as a programmer in on-line businesses,[11] including dating sites,[12] and Khuri Chandler as a journalist. A person whos an engineer who wants to develop, who wants to think about engineering problems, and not financial problems. US . And in thinking that way, I realized wow, books are kinda broken on the internet. I know the first time that we tried this interview it didnt work out so well. It did not give me much more than that. We allow you to actually create custom shelves. Andrew: Alright, and you talked about compelling content. So giving users the ability to do that means you can use it without your friends being on there. Goodreads felt Amazon's requirements for using its API were too restrictive, and the combination of Ingram, the Library of Congress, and other sources would be more flexible. Because one thing we noticed early on was that wed be browsing around and some guys profile would say Hey, Im so-and-so the author of this and wed be like Whoa, theres really cool authors hanging on our site. The collection of former Los Angeles Times publisher Otis Chandler evolved over the years along with the interests of the man, from classics and motorcycles to muscle cars and racing Porsches. If they were Christian, theyd go to ChristianSingles. I dont know that I can point anything else out. 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