I was lucky one. The extravagant Convents offered the Nuns a degree of gentile comfort, a warm room of their own, the best of food and drink, and wanting for nothing. She was told to go away, that we were wards of court, even though that wasnt true. ), it wouldn't be hard to, Couple a sadistic personality and a whole lot of pent up sexual frustration.yeah anybody would go psycho. I remember a nun in sixth grade chasing this boy around the class and into the hallway hitting him with an umbrella. Only my opinion of course, but I'd blame it on a lack of physical and emotional shenanigans with members of the opposite sex. The babies were usually. They would just use anything that came to hand. Vicious evil people.. In high school I realized that what we were taught about loving one another was just words. This button displays the currently selected search type. The head of the inquiry said there were at. Violence was frequently employed and encouraged with the most common forms being verbal abuse, slaps, blows, and kicks. Some of these women and girls from middle-class backgrounds and with no professional training, were transformed into some of the most vicious Nuns running various Religious Institutions in Ireland. It's easy! dead bodies should be so very much more shocking than . You think your nuns were bad? June 2019 He would feed him at breakfast, dinner and lunch then undress him and bath him before putting him to bed. The children were beaten regularly and the nuns were never really nice to them. FOR MORE than 100 years, the Poor Sisters of Nazareth cared for children in the order's dozens of homes across Britain. Thus, nuns act out their cruelty towards others. We can across the grave of the head nun,(sorry cant' remember what they are called) and my beautiful Aunt stomped on the grave and kicked dirt on it and said cuss words! Mari Steed For many years now, stories about the conditions at the now-shuttered Bon Secours Mother and Baby Home in Tuam, Ireland, have circulated among locals. If you were scrubbing the floor and looked up you could get a whack over the head or even be kneed in the face. Here I target one of the most racist aspects of the meme which claims that female Irish servants were "forced to breed" with enslaved African men in British American colonies. I managed to buy my own house and pay the mortgage off. "My feet were so badly swollen I was kept off school for three days and two other girls had to join hands to carry me up and down the stairs. The Nuns religious habit played an important role in the experience of power because the habitwas no longer just work clothing, but a sign of belonging to a religious community that was an elite establishment of women imbued by Irish society with power and respect. Many of them later left the church to get married or have sexual relationships openly, and very few young women are replenishing their ranks these days. The innocent novice Nuns, with their good intentions, had no idea of what awaited them in the hellholes known as the Magdalene Laundries with their captive and illegally-held female slaves and their children who, although they had committed no crime, toiled there. The investigation is still active & more depravity is being uncovered. They are not interested in children which was obvious at Tuam .Orphanage, in Ireland plus others.. Nuns have to obey their superiors, which can lead to a feeling of being trapped and powerless, and it can also lead to nuns being quite resentful towards those in positions of authority. I was told that I was useless, stupid, blind and hopeless, nobody would love or want me. The Magdalene Laundries were a profitable business for the Nuns and the Cult of the Irish Catholic Church. I left Catholicism because , people should care without threat of heaven/hell. Their thinking was instutionalized as of course they were too. Its not easy to always be modest. It can also lead to nuns lashing out at others due to their discomfort. I saw a boy hit on the knuckles with a steel ruler at 7 years old. This caused a huge strain on me.. July 2019 Was Thomas given away or sold?. Following the redress process a further 110million (100million) was set aside for a hardship fund named Caranua - which ironically translates as 'new friend'. No goodbyes. The Nuns were the power and to them the inmates were slaves, criminals and whores. Keep on seeking first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness. I know that they are supposed to be married to god and suchbut when you are married to a guy that is never around, doesn't talk to you, sets up impossible rules, and never has sex with youwell you would be cranky too. A few days later, William was told his brother had died although he is now convinced this was untrue. Every morning he had to wash and dress his little brother Thomas, who had brittle bone disease and was unable to walk. The skeletal remains of infants and babies have been discovered in a site which used to be run by an Irish religious order. I wonder what makes them so mean? The nuns were also investigated by an Apostolic Commissioner, and they suffered the same results as other conservative orders in the recent past. By Jack Dutton On 2/22/21 at 6:42 AM EST. "The dormitory would sleep 12. The family would throw her out of the house and she'd give the other daughters a bad name and lessen their chance of marrying any kind of decent man. Your post was so full of hate & sarcasm Im surprised you havent been banned what you wrote was absolutely inexcusable. It is also a powerful order across the world, and its published accounts show it is worth pounds 154m. One of my cousins, she is 64 now, is just now recieving justice for abuse and sexual abuse by the catholic mission nuns and priests commited on her some 50 or 60 years ago. The gagging order is such an appalling and cruel abuse to all of us survivors who went through the Redress Board. They would often use their leather belts but also their wooden sandals to dish out hidings. They left the unfortunate girls to their fate. In the 1930s and 1940s, a conservative revolution ushered in an era in Quebec now known as " The Great Darkness .". July 2020 So nuns did their best to keep you from committing a mortal sin and their way of doing that was to enforce a sort of discipline by various means of which some were mean like hitting your knuckels with a ruler. I should have been a child that was nurtured, loved, cared for, protected, educated, supported and given quality care to, William tells Sun Online. The Widow's Pension did not come in til 1934. Priests. I didn't know the underscore wasn't mandatory for usernames before I came to these forums. Beatings were a daily occurrence. I certainly didnt need any time to reflect on my own experience of cruel Irish Nuns.. After all, I was nine years with the Sisters of Charity of St Vincent de Paul in Dublin in both a Mother and Baby Home, St. Patricks on the Navan Road where I was born and spent the first four years of my life, and for five more years at St Philomena's Home, Stillorgan. It was only later I realised that you didn't bruise so badly there. A recent redress fund, set up by the government to provide financial help for the victims, received 16,500 applications, but William is now fighting to scrap the gagging orders required to receive any money. Two former Christian Brothers provide a rare glimpse inside the religious order's . He was told that the remains would be brought back to Moate for mass and the following day to his hometown of Daingean, Co. Offaly. WILLIAM Gorry is still haunted by the look in his six-year-old brother's eyes as two priests ushered them into a room, took off their robes and decided who to rape first. "We were skivvies, basically. After all, we all have our own crosses to bear. (9 Reasons Why). Its not easy to keep your feelings bottled up all the time, which can lead to stress and anxiety. We found nine reasons that may shock you. Police are also investigating after lawyers representing former residents passed on relevant files. It was a poor but loving home, but in 1975, Williams world was turned upside down when Catherine buckled under the strain and left. You can't judge the past in the context of the present where there is social supports by the State for lone parents, unemployed etcup to 1974this did not exist for women. She was tied to a chair and beaten for weeks until she started to learn english. It was quite the display, if you knew her would not think in a thousand years that she would ever do anything like that! You must remember that Catholic Ireland believed that the Religious-run Institutions were legitimate and acceptable places in which to put unmarried women and their children who were judged as being anti-social and ungodly. 50. He found refuge in the British army, where . The only subject of conversation was who was for it next. "The only thing I learned to do there was fight, and when I come across a nun today I avoid them because I cannot be civil. Iam writting a family book about our family from as far back as I can go. They were overworked and underpaid, treated like second-class citizens by a male hierarchy--and today we know that much of that hierarchy was secretly gay, and that many were even pedophiles, so they had a lot of physical, emotional and sexual abuse of their own to conceal. In truth most of the young Nuns were not yet expert in administering human suffering; they were to become that later. Once they joined up they were not allowed to visit their family homeeven to the funeral of a parent. The nuns were terrible.". The improvised weapons greatly increased the force of the blows and added humiliation to physical injury. But many nuns never had the chance to break the cycle. In fact, one priest was a child molester at our high school. My grandmother was 3 years old when she was first brought to the mission. A "religieuse" as she is called throughout the series, she also trained as an advocate of Irish law called the Brehon law system. Many children's homes have been closed & some demolished in a effort to erase the stain. April 2019 Golda Meir, One good thing about music, when it hits you feel no pain. These Irish nuns emmigrated to Australia and brought the Catholic Churches forced adoption practices with them. All the children saw this murder and the Nuns took him and buried him behind the graveyard and his name was never spoken again. The recipients often turn . It makes perfect sense that some would take their emotions out on others. Sometimes the really obvious take on history turns out to be the right one. Are just some of them mean? Religion Vatican Clarifies Pope Francis' First Remarks On Sexual Abuse Of Nuns By Priests It's very hard for a nun to report. Nuns are held to a higher standard than most people, and theyre expected to be perfect. And thats a good thing for everyone involved. Some of these reasons include the high expectations placed on them, the fact that theyre not allowed to express their feelings, and many of them come from abusive or neglectful families. Anyone who suffers from it can rest easy in at least knowing they're not alone, and when KQED looked at why so many horror movies feature nuns, they found that part of it was the secrecy of convents that put the fear of God into people.. It's been that way for a long, long time way back in . The exercise of absolute power is crucial for understanding the running of the Religious Institutions in Ireland. Their livesand later their deathshad been shrouded. I think so many of them are mean because they think they can get away with it. Not a day went by without someone getting a battering. So theres hope in breaking this cycle completely, thus decreasing the cruelty that some nuns display. The nuns were so mentally and physically abusive .the lay teachers were the same . It is also true that in the Free State times families could have taken their daughters home at any stageWe had a Constitution which obliges due process before incarceration. One of the devices operating on this principle was the rack, which is infamously associated with the Inquisition . October 2021 I was five years of age. It was considered very prestigious to have a daughter become a Nun as was having a son in the Priesthood. It is a greater act of contempt than striking the face because it emphasises the asymmetry between the torturer and her victim. I think my time there has left deep scars. I remember being made to sit in a cold bath. The "significant quantities" of remains were found in 17 out of 20 underground chambers that were examined. My aunt said I never stammered before I went there. After being forced to leave the school at 16, Philomena fell pregnant and went into one of Irelands notorious mother and baby homes, where her baby girl was taken away and given up for adoption against her will. But trying to be perfect always is enough to make anyone go a little crazy. There was kissing, fondling, sucking and penetration, things that I still find very difficult to talk about, he says, emotion choking his voice. They took great delight in saying my mother died at school assembly. That was when her main tormentor at the Nazareth House in Middlesbrough, Sister Laurence, died. Unkind. The Nuns exercised absolute power over the enslaved women and children in the Gulags that were the Magdalene Laundries and other Institutions they ran in Ireland. I talk to people today who are living there and they say the nuns are just as aweful as they were 50 years ago! 3-For because of the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality, all the nations have fallen victim, and the kings of the earth committed sexual immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth became rich owing to the power of her shameless luxury." Thank you again for your insight. Though it was three miles away and there was a school bus, we were only given enough money to make the journey once a day, so depending on the weather we'd take it in the morning or afternoon. I have cried so much wondering what happened to my loving brother. It was a matter of impressing and/or shocking fellow Nuns by specific acts of violence, and thereby proving ones authority and skill. Content Summary. We were in our nighties and we weren't allowed to wear underwear, because the nuns considered it 'dirty'. While your doing that, tell any stories of nuns that you might have. For being late for prayer. 1. . I was sent to clean her office and if she decided I didn't clean it properly she would start banging my head against the wall. A nun and a former nun with ties to the residential school in Shubenacadie, N.S. I relatiated at nuns school in UK. The Nuns had complete power over the women and children and overwhelming dominance over everything in their Institutions.. Physical violence was allowed and was encouraged by the frustrated Nuns in all the Institutions in order to get the upper hand - literally and brutally - by striking blows with hands, feet, sticks, chains, metal objects or whatever else came to hand. I was up at 5am scrubbing floors, doing laundry. "Most of the nuns were Irish and though they were trained to be nuns they were not trained to look after kids, and that is where a lot of the problems were. Run by the Bon Secours order of nuns, the Tuam home opened in 1925 and closed in 1961. Wicked City was initially canceled after just 3 episodes, but later, the remaining episodes were aired on Hulu. I love them so much, there are so helpful, I always get sad when they get transferred to another church. This can lead to a lot of stress and anxiety, leading to nuns taking their frustration out on others. "She especially hated me. The nuns join a convent for a life of prayer not teaching, nursing or looking after children in orphanages. 4-And I heard another voice out of Heaven say: "Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues." August 2019 The daily torturing and beating of the slave women and children enabled the cruelest of the Nuns to assert their place in the Magdalene Laundries and other Institutions. I endured all their frustrations directly with violence, beatings, rapes, and mental trauma. Sadly, those abusive women were sadists who should have been imprisoned themselves and also hospitalized. Not a life of such abuse, torture, pain and hell. Part of being human is being a sexual person humans are attracted to other people, have romantic feelings and sexual urges. The Magdalene Laundries in Ireland, also known as Magdalene asylums, were institutions usually run by Roman Catholic orders, which operated from the 18th to the late 20th centuries. The nuns from the Good Shepherd were called, she says. I became agnostic when I learned about the Crusades. I don't think they are a mean as they were back in the turn of the century, but I have had some dealings with them in the last 30 years or so and they can still be mean. Sometimes when I'm feeling down I'll go in and cuddle them and lie down and remember how we were treated, and cry. The nuns would enter a convent in their teens and would be told nothing about sex or re Continue Reading 18 2 Peter Kisner But its also important to remember that Mothers used to be nuns at some point, as its a matter of hierarchy. That is why I want to take them to court.". Terrified, I remember holding out my hand thinking an adult would take it. To learn more, you can also read our posts on why 911 operators are so rude, why judges are so rude, and why cops are so rude. There was a constant atmosphere of fear, and beatings all the time. Celibacy is NOT normal for humans. September 2019 January 2019 Philomena went on to marry twice and have three more children, Emma, 35, Richard 27 and Kelly 25. Archaic teaching methods are now seen as barbaric. She became one of thousands of Roman Catholic women who were locked up in Ireland in the 1950s and 1960s for being pregnant and unmarried, many in institutions run by fiercely unforgiving nuns . 1 1.Why do Catholic nuns have a reputation for being cruel and abusive ; 2 2.Why were Irish Nuns so Cruel? "Bedwetting was about the worst thing you could do. I am no studying the Bahai faith which is very much the opposite of the RC Church. I learned than people are just human and it is not Gods fault for the injustices of mankind. In Ireland, the Sisters of Mercy operated, from the time of their foundation in 1831, as a series of autonomous convents, each of them subject to the authority and jurisdiction of their local bishop.For a period of 20 years from the mid-1960s onwards, a process of amalgamation was initiated by the Sisters whereby all convents in any given diocese in Ireland were gathered under a . Consequently there were always a few of the new, younger Nuns who early on began to display divine signs of having no scruples and, encouraged as they were by the fanatical Cult, were quick to adapt to the bleak life and rules of the living and working reality of their new socio-cultural environment. Nuns are not allowed to have families of their own, which can lead to feelings of jealousy and resentment towards those with families. Nursing Nuns of the Civil War. Something was telling me that something bad was going to happen.. November 2020 "Looking back, I think one of the reasons was that the nuns weren't happy and decided we damn well weren't going to be either. After Duplessis received the provincial Church . The mission had boys dorm and girls dorm and behind the dorms outside was a small creek that ran behind the buildings and through the woods. Some of the Irish Nuns who ran the Magdalene Laundries had notorious reputations and were known for their extreme violence, even in many cases as we know today, beating the inmates to death. secrets passed from mother to daughter. We were told, The priest will be up to bless you now.. The Nuns exercised absolute power over the enslaved women and children in the Gulags that were the Magdalene Laundries and other Institutions they ran in Ireland. Ireland's attitude to the Catholic Church has made it possible for people to "literally demonise" nuns and completely obscure the good work they have done over the years. 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