In . Which I'm sure made finding the girls all that worse. He seemed quite toned down and purposely mellow in his critique of single women. He posts that while at a restaurant, he observed what he decided is a man touching his kids inappropriately. In Indiana, most defendants are entitled to a reasonable bail that is high enough to ensure the defendant's appearance in court, according to Indiana law. Rozzi rhetorically asked. Indiana State Police confirmed to WISH-TV on Wednesday afternoon that the search ended after six weeks. And its likely that BG did work there, as youve pointed out, since he killed Libby the same way pigs are slaughtered. "If it is related, whatever they're looking for, I hope it comes sooner rather than later. 4 things we learned about arrest in deaths of Liberty German and Abigail Williams, What we know and don't know 5 years after Abby and Libby were killed, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. Those with pertinent information can email, abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or call 765-822-3535. The only exceptions are murder and treason. Suspicious as Hell if you ask me. DELPHI, Ind. I keep seeing people say it was a sunken bowl surrounded by a circle of trees. Kind of odd that the most descriptive mentions point out a circle of trees. Photo: Courtesy Mike and Becky Patty. It is not a a palette knife, I know that much. Its a small county. I dont even know what that means. Five years ago today, in Delphi, Ind., two best friends, Abigail Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, went missing while on a hike through the city's . Thats why Carter was so livid that night because their main suspect was right there in the room. Because this is a pending investigation, we do not have any details to share at this time., FBI Special Agent in Charge Herbert J. Stapleton. Also Thursday, the Indiana Department of Correction said Richard Allen, who has been charged with murder in the deaths of Abby Williams and Libby German, has been moved to one of their facilities. Instead he was with the team that found the bodies. True crime podcasters investigating the brutal 2017 murders of two young girls in Delphi, Indiana, say they spotted law enforcement conducting a search of waters close to where their bodies were . And thats not even the start of the weirdness. DELPHI, Ind. VERY strange indeed. Those four words have been used by family and community members to keep attention on the case as it remained unsolved. Good job! Our police sources told us that Mr. X is indeed the main suspect. Based on his posts, he does appear to have some animosity towards young women, and he is an oversharer. Ive always said that I would be screaming on the rooftop. So how did you get the crime scene photo?? He has not been charged or accused of any wrongdoing in the deaths of Abby and Libby. For years, Becky Patty, Libertys grandmother, has posted a photo on Facebook every day in memory of the girls, usually with the words Today is the day in the image. "As Doug Carter said that earlier, if you recall. But werent the FBI involved from the start? Theres a puppy sticking out of the bears collar. They force his wife to abandon their house.. oh so he died recently? I am very curious to know what you think people are getting wrong as to Chadwells behavior and videos (both are which are undeniably creepy). "But the arrest on two counts of murder is sure a major step in leading to a conclusion in the long-term and complex investigation.". He tells off women in passive aggressive hostile posts. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. In a town like Delphi, no one is innocent. They try to walk it back in more recent interviews but you can see it on their face. and our However, here is my argument for him as the BG: He does resemble the man in the video, particularly the short lower leg area. Didnt know, I dont know the gentleman personally at all. And also know if any of the POIs were around that night, right? "For now, to me, it's about protecting the integrity of this case.". This is still a very ongoing investigation, McLeland said. Since then, police have formed a task force for the case, interviewed suspects and followed tips, eventually leading to Allen's arrest. The next day, volunteers from the community formed a search party, and found the girls bodies in a wooded area near the trail. They had been keeping this a secret for all this time, but this secret was starting to bother her and eat away at her, so she released it to a member of my team, a woman. I don't know. The revelations come just two weeks after authorities released a redacted version of the probable cause affidavit that led to Richard Allen's arrest. During a search of Allen's home on Oct. 13, 2022, officers found knives and guns, including a "Sig Sauer, Model P226, .40-caliber pistol," the probable cause affidavit said. Unless she time traveled back to 2015-16 but maintained her age, th our math would make her 16 in 2017. As per the transcript, Kline also allegedly searched "how long does DNA last" in the aftermath of the murders, in addition to Googling updates on the Delphi investigation and searching for information about other unsolved killings, including the murder of JonBentRamsey. Delphi murders:Review the case through 5 years of reporting Initially, the media filed a motion to intervene in November, requesting the court to unseal Allen's probable cause affidavit, his . This is also a problem because brains go everywhere and this is probably how those prion diseases like Mad Cow disease are spreading. He certainly didnt sound suicidal in his retirement announcement from Monticello in Nov 2019. Basically nobody in town except a few people who dont like him thinks he did it. I dont know why more people arent talking about this connection. A spokesperson for the Wabash County Jail declined to provide additional information when contacted by The U.S. Sun but said the arrest was unrelated to the probe into the Delphi probe the site of a 2017 double murder to which Trexlers cousin, but not Trexler himself, has been linked by prosecutors. The agent also references the video on Libbys phone where the suspect says guys, down the hill. She confirms the full video is 43 seconds long. Looking at Facebook posts from 2017, its clear that he had reddish hair then and that it could appear curly when short. Police have released a new clue in the deaths of two girls a chilling recording of three words. If the affidavit remains sealed, Rozzi said, it will make the prosecutors' and the defense attorneys' jobs more difficult since they will have to vaguely allude to allegations during arguments in future hearings, including the scheduled Feb. 17 hearing on whether Allen should be released on bond. I just cant imagine my peers posting things like that. Police initially believed the. It was unclear Monday whether Allen has an attorney. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have actually determined the main suspect in the case, and we have a pretty good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like. These two SPMs arrived at these conclusions independently. DELPHI, Ind. Im almost 100% the Flora case is connected to the Delphi case. Watch on. And on the other side of the fence, single women bitch a lot about us men too. Just forget it. We have no idea. Im not sure if the reason for this is because the search parties just mentally glossed over that particular location for more remote spots or because theres something geographically strategic about that particular area that makes it less detectable. However, the agent said, These statements were found to be factually false and intentionally designed to deceive LEOs (Law Enforcement Officers).. Yes it is very important that there is a Tyson plant nearby in both of the crimes. An attorney listed for Trexler has not yet responded to a request for comment. To this day they haven't been found. We also have it from two separate search party members independently that they were told to not tell anyone what they had seen. However, they only cut pigs throats that way in kosher slaughterhouses. "And thats the case. And were going to stay after it. As far as Mr. X being a POI, I disagree, as I also disagree that the Delphi Murders are connected. But get this. Crews were being sent out 10 to 12 people at a time to help cover an area of 20 to 25 square miles, Leazenby said. Also the original SPM1 clarified via my friend that there was not just one stuffed animal but also that there were stuffed animals plural at the scene. I doubt hes seen that classic film, but girls as flowers is common imagery. This is especially important with the heinous murders of Abby and Libby. A kind of sick taunt? "It certainly seems like it could be significant, but as to what it pertains to, I don't have a clue," said Carrie. Because he seems to be quite the liar to me," she charged. DELPHI, Ind. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. I myself have short lower legs and a long thigh area, so I noticed this right away. I dont think he does. We share similar philosophies. He has been hiding in plain sight, posting his artwork and cryptic statements on FB, etc. Either he went there to hunt or he was set off by their rudeness and then, enraged, decided to teach them a lesson, Libby in particular. Searcher Eric Williams speaks after nearly six years of no justice. Kline is in jail awaiting trial on 30 charges related to child pornography, but he has not been charged in the Delphi murders. That Monday afternoon, the two ventured onto the trail around the Monon High Bridge. Trexler has prior DUI infractions to his name, police records show. This is from NMs obit: he was a Crime Scene Technician. As the search for Abby Williams and Libby German ends at a crime scene, the reality of what's happened is worse than anyone could have imagined. Authorities said that Richard M. Allen, 50, of Delphi, Ind., was taken into custody last week and charged with two counts of murder Friday in the killings of Liberty German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, whose bodies were found in 2017. You dont think there were stuffed animals at the crime scene? Rachel Fradette is a general assignment reporter at IndyStar. I've hardly seen anyone speak about the search party. Privacy Policy. In addition, SPM2 also reported the same dolls hanging from trees that SPM1 report. Gray makes over $100,000/year from his podcasts, which is fine by me. Here in Gary, about two years ago, a special needs woman and a toddler she lived with went missing. "Weve still got, now weve got a big mountain ahead of us. The agent said Logan claimed someone drove him to an aquarium store in Lafayette on the afternoon of February 13 at the time the girls disappeared. The bad guy knew they would be at the bridge that day bc they told someone or the bad guy overheard conversation by way of being close to the family, being nearby as drop off and pick up plans were made. One of the only early clues to their killing was a video Libby took on her phone, capturing a man approaching them, who then could be heard telling the girls to go "down the hill. Doug Carter of the Indiana State Police provides an update on the Delphi murders investigation on April 22, 2019, in Delphi, Ind. He makes public posts that he would, and has before beaten up men who prey on kids. How about getting your moneys worth? Thats one theory we are looking at. At this point, this rumor seems like its proven at least to my satisfaction. Were there (are there) people from the search party talking on some obscure boards we know nothing of? I live on a fixed income which is barely above the poverty level. Anyone remember that letter and who that search coordinator was? As usual, they do not want to be identified, but I can tell you that once again, we are dealing with a female member of the party, in this case younger than middle aged. Based on investigators experience it is reasonable to believe that the creation of an alibi prior to the discovery of a crime indicates culpability or knowledge of the crime, the agent wrote. Required fields are marked *. I've read somewhere a few different times (only via rumor and not fact obviously and my apologies as I can't even remember where I read this, only that I definitely read it somewhere) that one of the girls' was left in a propped -up position against a tree. Or by their accounts, what were they doing? Very suspicious. Based on his posts, he does appear to have some animosity towards young women, and he is an oversharer. Whats that a photo of above then? "My worry is if he is trying to get a plea deal or whatever, then what if he's just telling them lies? LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- New details have been released in the case of two young girls found murdered in Indiana five years ago. "No. To say that all of the details intertwined with so many different people and relationships is complex would be an understatement. There are photos on his social media from 2015/2016 showing his tattoo, so it cannot be Libby. Il Funerale di Saddam, Add Iran to That Sino-Russian Alliance While You Are at It, This Is Almost Certainly the Single Most Inexplicable Series of Geopolitical Blunders in Recorded History, The Rules-Based Order the US Keeps Blabbing about, The Jewish Conspiracy To Subject Humankind. According to prosecutors, Kline used a bogus social media profile with the username "anthony_shots" to contact and illicit nude photographs from numerous underage girls. Would you consider writing a post on him? Would that indicate they (Abby and Libby) were put there after the search was called off? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Also the point about girls being dumped in places frequented by hunters. On Feb. 13, 2017, the two friends had gone for a hike on the Delphi Historic Trails and were reported missing by their families when they did not return home that afternoon. The time will come when additional details can be released, but again today is not that day, Indiana State Police Superintendent Douglas Carter said. If you have any information on the Delphi murders, contact law enforcement at 1-800-225-5324 or Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. Small beak. The inevitable questions arise. I also think the girls went to the bridge to meet YGS, but they got OGS instead, or possibly both. Contact her at rfradette@indystar.com or follow her on Twitter at @Rachel_Fradette. His FB artwork containing two dripping roses and a skull, along with swirls of blonde hair. A Valentines bear makes sense. In other words, its now proven that more than one stuffed animal was left at the scene. /u/LyonPirkey, thanks for the article. As far as whether there was a giant 5 foot stuffed animal left at the crime scene, even though I can see that thing clear as air, that rumor is so insane that I am not going to believe unless I get some further testimony. Libby's grandfather did not want the media to move on from this day. But does that mean that they are kosher slaughterhouses? Legal documents released earlier this month also seem to support the assertion. A 50-year-old suspect identified as Richard Allen has been arrested and booked into . How long did it take to get everyone together? They sell them on Valentines Day. Allen is being held at the White County jail without bond and has hearing dates scheduled for January and March 2023. I literally have no clue how that girl died; I don't know anything, anything to do with it. Kline is facing 30 child porn-related charges stemming from his alleged use of thefake social media account. The 38-year-old was arrested in September 2015 on a warrant for operating a vehicle while intoxicated and driving while intoxicated with a controlled substance. He actually thinks women are going for bad men and leaving nice guys and good men like him alone. Most compelling is the tattoo of what is clearly Libbys face with two bones and a skull framing it. I am so suspicious of Mr. Xs cemetery hangout and if the rumor about the keys being at the site is true. It seems wrong somehow that it could be this narcissistic doofus. | ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Please correct me if you know otherwise. If I go with the assumption that it might have been a group of searchers that didn't include members of LE, I can't imagine being a member of the community and volunteering to help to search for anyone and then finding the person or persons deceased in probably what was an obvious sign of a homicide(s), especially as someone such as myself who has no LE experience (or medical experience, etc.) His voice sounds very like the phone recording, raspy. So we have three people who arrived at the conclusion independently that there was at least one stuffed animal left at the time. Richard Allen arrested:Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. However, bond may be granted if the case does not appear to be strong, according to Indiana law. He loves the outdoors, but for all his pictures of creeks, bridges, and tents, I havent seen any camo-wearing, rifle-carrying hunting pics that are standard for the FB pages of small town guys who hunt. There were no stuffed animals in trees. State Police say Kline admitted using the fake profile to get sexual pictures and videos of nearly 100 underage girls. omygosh what a shame! Because probably because they DNA tested me they obviously have DNA on that body, 'cause why else would they DNA test me. Wouldnt LE and Fire officials have kept a list of folks who participated in the search? If yes, they can sort out the crime scene DNA, right? I do not understand the part about the CSI guy. ", Delphi killings:4 things we learned about arrest in deaths of Liberty German and Abigail Williams. Regarding Mr X, wouldnt the girls have known him if he were friends with Libertys grandparents? Delphi murder suspect Richard Allen, 50, was involved in a domestic incident in June. Why else do you think Carter would have said those things? But now we have a response to that rejoinder. The probable cause affidavit and charging information were sealed by court order, McLeland said, to protect the ongoing investigation. On Feb. 25, 2017, officers with Indiana State Police, the Peru Police Department and the Federal Bureau of Investigation executed a search warrant on Kline's home as part of that investigation,. Here in Gary, about two years ago, a special needs woman and a toddler she lived with went missing. Arrest made in Delphi case:Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. I'm assuming LE must "ask them" or straight out tell them to keep such information strictly to themselves for the sake of the on-going investigation. Inside Carroll County courtroom, reporters, sketch artists and the public packed the courtroom as dozens of police officers stood watch over the crowd and Allen. Yeah, I can do a post, but in the post Im going to say hes not it because hes not BG. 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