But I am genuinely in good faith surprised that this is not the consensus, so perhaps Im missing something. lol that is insane! He told the court that he was brought in to look at how the op-ed may have damaged Mr Depps reputation. The wait and see if she struck again has started. Speaking to Channel 7's Sunrise on Thursday, psychologist and broadcaster Cooper Lawrence did "not mince her words", to quote the show's co-host Natalie Barr. I never heard any complaints. Regarding the SA: I dont believe the bottle incident, that doesnt make sense at all. Media organisations even resorted to digging up photos of her smiling in an attempt to prove that she couldnt possible have been abused. That's a trial advocacy trick. Completely believable. We certainly dont want to believe that this entire court case is a precise and conniving operation in discrediting Heard, regardless of what she has to say, regardless of her truth. this!!! and she was still treated as a liar. The latest trial was related to Heard's op-ed in The Washington Post that was published in 2018. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. A reminder that #johnnydepp broke up his relationship not long after starring in a film with #AmberHeard Especially after being arrested for domestic abuse with her wife a few years back. they both suck. As many have pointed out, however, none of this should come as news to anyone seeing as Amber Heard said Johnny Depp abused Amber Heard last year. : 29.7K.: 951. TikTok masa (@lutizluva): all the comments I get from those who don't believe Amber, these "arguments" give me reason to understand that the person who writes them has no understanding of what the abuse of an addicted person is. Join thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their replies, Copyright The Associated Press All rights Reserved 2022. Johnny Depp has been found innocent. So that commenced in a lot of pettiness. And regardless of what Heard did or didnt suffer at the hands of Depp, isnt the relentless memeing of her a form of violence in itself? Have we completely lost track of the severity of these allegations? All Depps team has to do is say something like Amber had over 50k photos on her phone. you cannot possibly say this about everyone who supports Johnny Depp bc thats just stupid. Clinical psychologist testifies that Amber Heard has two personality disorders. Because the idea that women are conniving schemers is more readily believed than the idea that powerful, famous men are capable of abusing their spouses. it has nothing to do with who he is. Actors Johnny Depp and Amber Heard are going head-to-head in a US defamation case. Depp denied the allegations of domestic violence at the. Some weeks the internet is buoyant, all of us kept afloat by daft dresses and Kardashian weddings and Marvel actors saying theyve never been in the same room. that was weird now that I think about it lol, was she wasted? If it were him on those recordings saying I didnt punch you I slapped you. Does she seem to be lying about this? I wouldn't think the two of them would come out in his defense if he had been violent. The fact that he didnt assault her back is enough for me to think he didnt abuse her. Depp and Heard met on the set of the 2011 film The Rum Diary and married in 2015. I think he loved her and was trying to protect her but to each their own. He said the column damaged Mr Depp and created a cancel situation, if you will. I do believe her. May 24, 2022 at 2:52 p.m. EDT Actor Amber Heard listens, next to her lawyer Elaine Bredehoft during Heard's ex-husband Johnny Depp's defamation trial against her at the Fairfax County Courthouse.. I think she has a mental disorder thats the only break I think I can give her in this case. Nazir's personal assessment was echoed in a wave of comments shared by fans of The Pirates of the Caribbean star Depp. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. However the cavity search? I suppose my real question is, are they saying she did it intentionally? & this isn't me being a fangirl as I have 0 interest in both but I've followed the trial closely and Amber Heard is straight up not traumatised even . I think he has way more solid evidence of abuse from amber heard than she has to use against him.. He admitted to cutting his own finger. The British courts believed Depp beat his ex-wife. I think he loved her and said he did in order to protect her. She showed you many she took of Johnny sleeping or passed out how many photos has she shown you of her injuries as a result of Johnny???. Heard took to the . Like jazzy said, we want to believe the mysterious and handsome master actor. But his lawyers say the article contains defamation by implication because it clearly refers to allegations of domestic abuse made by Heard when she filed for divorce in 2016. No photos, no medical records, no nothing. Depp's refusal to look at his ex-wife during her testimony sparked spirited debate among each of the stars' supporters on Twitter, as they shared their opinions on the matter. policy. As has Chris Rock, who said onstage last week that yes, we should believe all women, just not Amber Heard.. He knows there is no evidence hence the lawsuit. Lastly, yes it is not entirely a clinical assessment of Amber H. I didn't make a diagnosis. Also, it is not true that he was never violent. That is deranged. We almost always want to believe the man, the more powerful and dominant one. Dont believe me? Amber Heard shared disturbing testimony about alleged abuse by Johnny Depp, and TikTok users mocked her. be FAIR. He cut his own finger. Ditto. She had like mini marks and she even stated in the testimony that some were a few days after etc where bruising would increase or worsen if you were PUNCHED by a MAN. Consider that a majority male jury convicted Harvey Weinstein. . His 15 year live-in girlfriend and mother to his children as well as Wynonna Ryder (dated 4 years) have come out in his defense. Depp had to reveal a lot of things about himself that hes been trying to hide for a long time, she said. She embellished and dramatized for support, love, and attention. Testifying about her marriage to Johnny Depp, she detailed years of alleged abuse in graphic detail. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. advertising. Some of it warranted, some of it not. Abuse isnt always immediately obvious and usually requires investigation to confirm. Amber Heard has been found guilty on one charge. When they were high? Heard is being systematically jeered at and ridiculed like a medieval criminal in the stocks as she catalogs historic abuse, as she alleges rape. However, one, or a few instances of MUTUAL physicality does not equate to domestic violence in my opinion. Unless youve been living under a rock for the past few weeks, youll know that the ex-spouses are back in court. Regarding the SA: I dont believe the bottle incident, that doesnt make sense at all. Ms Heard has filed a $100m counterclaim against Mr Depp for nuisance and immunity from his allegations. does not make logical sense. Entertainment lawyer says he believes Amber Heard thought she would benefit from Johnny Depp abuse claims. I believed him last week but my god he was so melodramatic. Go figure. To revist this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. An American psychologist has revealed in a no-holds-barred interview why she doesnt believe Amber Heards court testimony. Four men and three women sit on Depps jury. Amber story doesnt make sense?? These are all awfully specific, humiliating details, and they only bolster Heards credibility. Johnny tried to help her by telling her how to dress and what roles to take, and took it too far. I didn't think anyone would believe me. But shouldnt we have just believed her in the first place. Mr Marks said Ms Heard was calling out Hollywood to take action, and that the publicity machine was in high gear as the column was published around the release of her film Aquaman. That does not make any sense. That has to change. The company behind the makeup compact Heard used to hide her bruises even made a TikTok disputing her claims. Through his lawyers, he accused Heard of trying to extend her fifteen minutes of fame. For example: amber has expressed in many interviews that she didnt want to be seen ONLY as a sex symbol. I struggle to find the words to describe how painful this is, she said, PEOPLE reports. Additional comment actions. On the other hand, he is larger than life. I call B S. I cannot imagine someone that was so "concerned" about his sobriety, self report to the "fake nurse report* as drinking 3 to 4 glasses of red wine per day. The mother of his children, Winona Ryder, Kate Moss ect.. All concluded he was not an abusive man. I found him *somewhat* believable and I find her believable. People can testify all they want but the bottom line is there is no evidence. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. and indemnify Journal Media in relation to such content and their ability to make such content, Will Ariana DeBoses BAFTA Rap Ever Free Me From Its Spell? ''It's really hard to know what is authentic and what is an act. Pennington describes a scene where Johnny walks by, says "get your hands off my woman" and then leaves. Johnny, an addict, looks for the coke and trashes the room in the process. Users are reminded that they are fully responsible for their own Again though, that would be a mutual fight, and him using way more force than necessary to stop her, not him chasing her down and beating her. I havent been following much, but from what I have seen it sounds to me like he was pushed into reactive abuse. But does it make it a whole lot more likely that shes the problem here? Both of these guys have said at one point or another that Depp deserved it, that theyve always hated his movies, and that they wouldnt care if she cut their own fingers off because shes hot. Hollywood can put up with divas and drugs to make money, Mr Marks said, but added that they have drawn a line at allegations of abuse. Even if its aggressive or violent. After all, its hard to keep the small stuff straight when youre telling lots of big lies. "I felt safe talking to my mom because I knew she understood those dynamics and she wouldn't judge me for staying with him, for loving him even though this was happening to me," Heard said. We all understand that Depp fans will side with Depp. I believe both of them, its so toxic and sad to watch. We are with you, Johnny Depp.". Theyre both unbelievably toxic. Why are there so few feminist voices standing up for her? Just Ambers word and a photo of her with a pimple. Johnny Depp's refusal to look at Amber Heard as she testified about the alleged abuse she suffered during their relationship has sparked a debate online.. Depp, 58, filed a $50 million lawsuit . submissions or preferences. ", 'If you think somebody is ahead right now, that could change. Your post will be hidden and deleted by moderators. supports the work of the Press Council of Ireland and the Office of the Press Next: I also believe there was physical abuse. For more information on cookies please refer to our cookies She was crying - but there were no tears, Lawrence said. a place for discussion surrounding the current civil trial between johnny depp and amber heard, moderated in an unbiased manner. I think he has way more solid evidence of abuse from amber heard than she has to use against him. But I never called. You think to yourself, Which one of them is doing the better job of acting?. Youve seen detective shows where they do that, but it actually is a big deal when somebody is trying to communicate. The bottle story is an obvious lie. However the cavity search? Honestly, everyone bruises differently but to me it looked like amber was, as you put it, damaged by depp in some way. I cant think of any actresses who have prevailed, whove been cancelled, Mr Marks said. When any women challenge them, they get shut down with insults about being old and fat and jealous of Amber. In her 2018 op-ed, Ms Heard wrote that like many women, I had been harassed and sexually assaulted by the time I was of college age. idk. She cant choose not to particulate. As a society, its important that we believe women. Go figure.). The two were. Depp, who was dropped from the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise in 2018, was "asked to resign" from Fantastic Beasts 3 following the 2020 verdict. All symptoms of her mental health disorders. Mr Depp is seeking damages of not less than $50m. Maybe bc Im reading a lot of the testimony and not hearing it I am so confused as to why people like him. Cooper Lawrence didnt mince her words when assessing Heards first morning of testimony. A presenter appearing on Australian breakfast TV show Sunrise has issued a brutal comment on the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard trial after the Aquaman actress took to the stand. Rossalyn Warren / Twitter Depp then slapped her "across the face," she testified. Oh yeah, tons of people are defending her. The exes have been involved in multiple legal battles since their split. apparently saying he wants to rape her corpse is just angry ranting. I think its also a tough situation because abusers that are good manipulators will have everyone saying no, not them which can be even harder on the victim. Amber is obviously lying but a lot of people are saying that when you're traumatized you remember every detail and her inconsistency proves it didn't happen. I dont like the term reactive abuse because I dont think that a victims reaction to being abused should be categorized as any kind of abuse. Dont ask Amber Heard to be a perfect victim. If you feel a message or content violates these standards and would like to request its removal please submit the following information and our moderating team will respond shortly. British TV personality Narinder Kaur also weighed in on the day's court proceedings, as she suggested that opinions had been formed based on the people concerned, rather than their actions. But the truth is, neither one of them is acting. I do believe she defamed him out of spite. Feel like Amber really hurt the bi community in more ways than one (which i understand is small issue in comparison). Thats not to say shes not awful, but I believe her story. Please refresh the page or navigate to another page on the site to be automatically logged inPlease refresh your browser to be logged in, Richard Marks says family-friendly companies like Disney are the pinnacle of sensitivity, Find your bookmarks in your Independent Premium section, under my profile, Watch live as Johnny Depps trial against Amber Heard continues. Depp is suing Heard for libel in Fairfax County Circuit Court in the US after she wrote an op-ed piece in The Washington Post referring to herself as a public figure representing domestic abuse. On May 4, Twitter user @christinapykles . We want to believe the highest paid actor of all time. Just that language alone is highly disturbing and should have you think what is in the heart of a person who uses such language. 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