eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), ga('ads.send', { Everyone is welcome, fans and non-fans. also please read this before trying to contact me about any of this. If you have anything else you wanna add/say, my ask box is open, but I probably wont reply until tomorrow because I really need to go to bed. Her confidence has grown through the years, due in part to her role models such as Beyonce and Rihanna, with Hwasa even saying in a now viral video Soon, I found myself promising this: If I dont fit into this generations standard of beauty, then I will have to become a different standard but prejudice based off looks has always been the sore button topic for her. I will try to work on this in the future because I dont want to portray idols as villains when theyre not actually responsible for what has happened (e.g. 1) I made this post because Ive seen people actively asking about what things suju have done and whether we have a masterpost, this wasnt supposed to be a resource for people to use to justify their hate for suju, however if a person does hate suju because of things members have said/done that is up to them. A quick list (that is nowhere near all) of the vocal famous Mamamoo fans include: JYP (founder of JYPE), Yoo Hee Yeol (Host of Sketchbook), Im Chang Jung (senior ballad singer), Lee Hyori (senior solo artist), Hyuna (solo artist), Seulgi (of Red Velvet), Lee Dahee (actress), Wang Bitna (actress), and Kim Hyesoo (actress). The point is to provide information about things which could be perceived as offensive so that fans can decide for themselves whether or not they feel comfortable continuing to support the idols. Dark smudges of makeup were put on her face to represent dirt that the beggar character had on him, and people accused her of doing blackface for it, even though she was portraying a Korean character, and not someone of African descent. Nobody is saying you cant like these idols, everybody messes up at some point, but dont call other people sensitive just because you might have a higher tolerance level. It is absurd. reporters on a platform technologically tailored to meet the needs of the modern reader. when something is scripted) or it is something they did along time ago and havent done since. Im simply complying a list of things that could be perceived as offensive or problematic so that fans can decide for themselves. Solar Moonbyul Wheein Hwasa Results are only viewable after voting. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), This is extremely disheartening, as Hwasa has spent her entire life fighting against such backwards thoughts as that. The song itself did not originally contain the word, but the lyrics Hwasa was using were taken off the Melon website, which did. You dont owe them anything in the lines of forgiveness, especially if you were one of the people they personally hurt with their past actions. Comes with 1 group photocard and 2 random member photocards out of 8. Having said that it was still wrong but I don't acquite it to a minstrel show or it have been in a mock manner and I am glad that they apologised and have learnt from that. (but if you need the actual fan account to knock that off, i guess ill find someone who can give that to you. omg?? Everyone seems to think that the world revolves around them. hey uh, not a lot of people are anyway (thankfully), but Id really appreciate it if people could stop reblogging the super junior post I made, thatd be fab ty. Im glad that people find this blog useful and Im glad some of the posts have helped raise awareness and educate people about the offensive things idols do, but this blog requires a lot of time and energy and knowledge that I just dont have. Probation Faker. And when a few Moos did call other fandoms out on their abusive tweets, the response that night was majority she deserves it, or most common answer: its just a joke. Its not good when people exaggerate stuff (like they did with Siwon) but its good to keep discussions going on offensive things in kpop, 3) Thank you for the fanaccounts/links about the Siwon thing (Ill add them to the list), thats the kind of thing I appreciate being told because I am not omniscient and I dont know everything (Also I think I already had one of those on there?). I dont know if youre Korean or not (your blog doesnt say) but if you arent, I consider everything youve said invalid information. My first mistake was actually assuming that the video at the source was still there (because it had been last time I checked) and so I thought people would automatically know that he said it a long time ago judging by the video itself. Only four hours after the incident occurred, both Mamamoo and their company RBW wrote out an apology in both Korean and English and posted it online. They were ignorant and uneducated at the time. They are definitely not out to hurt anybody, that I know for sure. But what appears to be the root of people's unforgiving nature where Hwasa is concerned is that despite past apologies and promises to do better, the idol has continued to make mistakes in the form of cultural appropriation. The callout, this time, however, was linked to the singer's inclusion of Latin-themed elements in her song's lyrics and music. Everyday there are tweets wishing for her to die, get beat up, fall out of planes, etc. or for the life of me find it again so this is unsourced for the time being. They could learn about Korean values and customs online, but they'll never truly understand the severity of it because they're not from that culture where it's significant. Ive seen multiple times that idols should know better because they have internet access and should know why the n word is bad or why blackface is bad. offensive/misogynistic comments to his Cyworld account, Kai was in charge of skin color in the group, my noona is a little on the tanned side, no wonder why you guys acted like you were so close with each other, I thought the lights were not entering over there, said that he has Kai saved as Blackie in his phone contacts, in a pre-debut video with a hard -er at the end, how can you say something that doesnt even make sense?, Chanyeol asked Kai if he wanted to lighten his skin, Dont misunderstand us. Normal version comes with 1 random photocard out of 4. I feel like this sounds insincere but its not, I promise, I wish I had gone about it very differently. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy K-pop stans w/o any receipts. They're open-minded and extremely kind people. it is also very likely the kangin/n thing was scripted, considering n hung out with suju members shortly after and neither n nor kangin nor their companies were asked about it EVEN ONCE and calling someonetrash in a magazine or bts video is a big deal. They are known and respected by the general public, for their powerful vocals and performances, and can only go up in relevance from here. I'm sure I'm still unlearning a lot of things today. Mamamoo member Hwasa is one of the most compelling female idols. When people see my profile pic on Instagram and see that I'm a black Moomoo , they always try to use it against me saying that I must not care about the black community if I still support them. Our team is real men., Actually, we are all men, real men ah! I dont make these lists with the intent of ruining the idols image or spreading misinformation (which by the way, if I do again, please call me out on it because otherwise I have no other way of knowing). Ill probably look for another video of the same segment at some point but I dont have time right now. I didnt really spend a huge amount of time on that Super Junior post and I didnt properly think about the way I was phrasing things, or the information I was including. }); Others, despite agreeing that Hwasa was at fault, thought the questions were taking it too far. They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. Villain. I wholeheartedly accept that I messed up on this and Im really sorry, because I feel like I sort of have a responsibility not to spread misinformation and thats exactly what I did. Its probably my fault for not communicating that clearly enough though. When asked about it, she replied that it was an homage to Rihanna, who wore something similar in a performance, as RIhanna is one of the people she looks up to the most. However, this became a lot more unlikely when a second video was released, titled censored version, which did not include the supposed autism comment. Her wig: Now I can understand how it can be seen as cultural appropriation. I cant undo posting it, but I regret it and Im really, genuinely sorry for spreading incorrect information and for any of the fans I upset. The last thing repeatedly referenced against Hwasa is the fact that she wore a durag on Queendom during Mamamoos Good Luck performance. I know Ive answered questions on things like racism, colorism, cultural appropriation, etc. . if henry said that the idea of his band mates being gay/transworried him, thats homophobic and transphobic. if he simply stated that he thought they were gay/trans, then there isnt a problem because theres nothing wrong with a person being gay/trans. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. }); document.querySelector("#google_image_div").addEventListener('click',function(){ eventAction: 'click_image_ads' hitType: 'event', One of the latest developments in recent times, that is currently drawing attention on online communities such as Nate/Pann and Twitter is the promotional period of K-Pop groups/soloists. Discover short videos related to mamamoo being problematic on TikTok. Hwasa, while covering the track, read the lyrics as is, leading to the gaffe. ga('ads.send', { But this often means the backlash is swift and severe anytime she puts out new content. yeah Id probably classify myself as a pacifist, thought I understand the use of violence in self defence or sports that require violence (MMA, boxing, etc.). i am so so tired. }); To preface, I love Mamamoo (obviously haha - otherwise I wouldnt be subbed to this community, I guess! Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. And it manifested almost solely around Hwasa who since the very beginning has received the bulk of the hate. Its so sad because I love them and hope they grow more internationally. there is nothing wrong with heechul thinking kris leaving exo was disrespectful - its his opinion, its not problematic. They never went into these situations with the intent of hurting or offending anyone. window.googletag.pubads().addEventListener('slotOnload', function(event) { Not speaking Korean and being confused about whats true and what isnt? Sorry this got a bit long but I appreciate you responding. Joined: Sep 2021 #1. They wont know the nuances of why what they did is offensive to us and thats why we tell them. Thanks for the reply! Posts: 310. hitType: 'event', Some of the stuff I included turned out to be something I misunderstood (for example, the gifset of Siwon) and with other things, I didnt include enough information or included misinformation. lesbians ranked Irene and Seulgi as #1 and #2 female idols. #1,972. I just always feel the need to resolve something when I get into it and I could see where you were coming from (plus you made some valid criticisms) so I thought Id explain myself. I did do that on my exo masterpost, but I also spent a lot more time and thought on that post as well. The environment that they grew up in is much different than ours; they're surrounded by customs and norms from their own society and culture. if you want to complain about me making this or ask me why i did, please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. }) One user asked, "Which culture did u enjoy appropriating the most," while another quipped, "Can we have a spoiler? The show is about celebrities living their daily life alone. I can definitely understand where youre coming from and why you sounded defensive. I can understand how a youtube translating team could mess up their translation, Ive seen it happen before, but as a person who doesnt know Korean I have to go off what Korean-speaking people tell me. I also hear about a clown outfit she wore in one of their videos that people again try to say was blackface but how when she's naturally tan and didn't look any different than normal so I was like huh. Everyone, dont think of dirty thoughts!, negative comment about Taos skin being dark, cant be too chubby/fat and must have a nice body, He has darker skin than me, doesnt he?, in general, youre skin looks better if you have a lighter skin tone. Mamamoo is a 4 member girl group under Rainbow Bridge World whose members are Solar, Moonbyul, Wheein and Hwasa and they made their debut on 19th June 2014. | A Japanese Man Reacts to Duolingo Let's ask Shogo | Your. My mom would like to know #AskHwasa, is mama africa a good name for you? I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. The Official MAMAMOO 18+ Thread - The Bar (18+) - OneHallyu Hello everyone, in honor of MAMAMOOs super awesome comeback for their sassy title track, Um Ah Oh Yeh, from their Pinky Funky mini album, I have decided to create a 18+ thread for the sexy ladies of MAMAMOO. Also of note, Mamamoo participated in and won the 2019 Queendom, coming in first place against such idols as (G)I-DLE, AOA, Oh My Girl, Park Bom, and Lovelyz. **All colorism is bad, but i think its fair to say that whenever Tao or Kai try to deflect colorist comments onto each other, it is usually a form of defence mechanism that stems from internalised colorism. We all make mistakes and Mamamoo is no exception. } #AskHwasa. Im aware people can be incredibly childish when it comes to offensive stuff in kpop, almost like its some game, like, there are actual people who look forward to exos next fuckup as though its not something that deeply upsets people. Hwasa is an idol who isn't afraid to be herself. ", HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT pic.twitter.com/hfqIr5fn9w, THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/gEpnibGF9J, the gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall #AskHwasa, Baby Mia Jade Riley: Parents Lani and Tom Riley speak out after dog attack killed their 5-week-old infant, 'We have lots to reveal': Madeleine McCann lookalike Julia Wandelt posts footage of meeting with PI probing claims, Kyle Sambrook: Hiker falls 100ft to death while carrying his dog in one hand through 'appalling' weather, Killer mom Lindsay Clancy was suffering from drug withdrawal and had 'worst side effects,' says friend, Bruce Willis's mom Marlene 'not sure if her son still recognizes her' as 'aggressiveness' creeps in. Group. I know they've apologized for many of their other problems they faced but seriously, the hate is so overwhelming. | by unchangingtruth | Medium Write Sign up Sign In 500 Apologies, but something went wrong on our end. My anxiety and paranoia are bad enough as it is but they shoot up every time I post on here, leaving me feeling sick when I cant check my inbox (or when I have lots of messages) and paranoid that everybody hates me/this blog. eventAction: 'click_ads' It also means I respond to criticism poorly. I didnt mean for this to spiral into an argument at all and I didnt post the post with malicious intent, though I know the intent doesnt matter all that much and that I did make mistakes. According to Koreaboo, throughout the conversations, not a single person from their side attempted to make excuses for their actions. Most of the controveries are from a while back (solar imitating her senior, the strawberry jam song). Thank you~). It is continued bashing and harassment of four girls, who for all accounts dont deserve it. MAMAMOO debuted on June 18, 2014, along with their single "Mr. Ambiguous." MAMAMOO was commended along with their first single by the critics as one of the best K-pop debut group in 2014. Twitter for Android 1 Quote Tweet 8 Likes Who can reply? So I decided to forgive them cause myself personally thinks that they tried to show love to Bruno Mars which is apparently one of their fav artist by doing a vcr of their songs but stupidity and very ignorantly decided to dark their skin to match his and his dancers. If you would not be able to handle it being done to you, dont do it to others, no matter how big or famous those other people are. 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